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« on: August 01, 2011, 01:45:56 PM »
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reports are out mr. i'll play when i wanna play is set to retire after 13 years..

either noone wants to pay him what he thinks he's worth or noone wants him because of his attitude! personally i think it both. man he could play in his day!
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2011, 02:00:30 PM »
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Good riddance  bootyshake
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2011, 02:06:58 PM »
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I think it's a little of both. Bring him back here again. With Chilly gone he would be fine. I think that was the problem last year. Chilly was a complete idiot.
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2011, 02:08:00 PM »
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i'm thinkin the packers would want him, there always ways a lot of moss in lambeu's end zone back in the day !!!!!!!!!!!!! headbang headbang laughing4 laughing4
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2011, 02:39:09 PM »
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reports are out mr. i'll play when i wanna play is set to retire after 13 years..

either noone wants to pay him what he thinks he's worth or noone wants him because of his attitude! personally i think it both. man he could play in his day!
NAH !! If it wasnt for Chris Carter Moss would have never learned what he did! Carter also kept him inline! No one else could or can
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2011, 04:35:53 PM »
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Hmmm. We could use him this year if we pay him based on performance. If he does well he gets paid well.  If he refuses to play we refuse to pay.

He wants to play for New England but they don't want to have anything to do with him.

If he's going to refuse to play and be completely obnoxious then please retire and go away.
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 04:40:07 PM »
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The problem being, is there are too many of his ilk that are talented, but don't want to use those talents correctly, and there are owners that see that talent and tell the coaches, hey, he's good, you figure out how to use him, that's what you get paid for.  In real life, he would never make it. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 04:51:42 PM »
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Well the guy probably has enough cash where he wont need to worry about it unless he's completely stupid. Because lord knows he would never be able to get another job anywhere since no one will put up with his attitude.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 07:10:08 PM »
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I think he's pretty set for cash based off his NFL earnings and his Nascar team.. dontknow
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 07:22:42 PM »
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He has a Nascar Team?

I think he is just waiting to get an offer from a top notch team. If they make him any offer he will comeback. He's trying to build hype so he can get the attention and the cash.
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2011, 08:21:18 AM »
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He has a Nascar Team?

I think he is just waiting to get an offer from a top notch team. If they make him any offer he will comeback. He's trying to build hype so he can get the attention and the cash.
yea he does. and i totally agree with ya Q!
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2011, 09:25:19 AM »
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It's all ego based. Rather than letting the world know nobody wanted him, he's retiring. Once the season starts and a couple of receivers drop from injury, he'll get an offer to come back.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2011, 09:27:11 AM »
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looks like its a done deal. He announced this morning that he will be retiring from Football.

One of the NFL's greatest all-time receivers, will not be back for a 14th season. Adam Schefter quotes Moss' agent, Joel Segal, as saying, "After weighing his options and contemplating offers, he's decided to retire."  
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2011, 11:06:11 AM »
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I think it's a little of both. Bring him back here again. With Chilly gone he would be fine. I think that was the problem last year. Chilly was a complete idiot.

Chilly wasn't really a complete idiot Shane. There were a few area's where I felt he could have worked harder on! headbang help :laughing4:DIRTBALL2 bs
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2011, 11:11:36 AM »
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It's all ego based. Rather than letting the world know nobody wanted him, he's retiring. Once the season starts and a couple of receivers drop from injury, he'll get an offer to come back.
i gotta agree with ya shane............OUCH that hurt!!! bootyshake bootyshake laughing4 i'd kinda like to see the vikes bring him back, i think he's got some fuel left in the tank. i dont think frazer would put up with his  bs!
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2011, 11:16:58 AM »
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Listening to ESPN last nite on the radio, they say he has lost some speed, and it is easier for defenders to stop him.  He never really was one to go over the middle and take hits.  Basically, they said he wouldn't be a Favre and was done.
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2011, 11:40:01 AM »
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I bet he had offers but his ego got in the way. He didn't want to play for some second rate team that only dreams of making the play offs this season. He wants that ring or nothing else.

With Moss it was all about his ego and nothing else. Yeah he was a good player and still is but if he was a true great his attitude and ego would have been in check.
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2012, 11:58:14 AM »
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looks as though " THE FREAK" wants to play some football! according to the msn homepage anyway.

i wouldnt mind if the vikes resign him as long as he cleaned up his act. he may not have the wheels he use to but i think he'd still be a heck of a reciever if usedright!
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2012, 12:22:02 PM »
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On one of the sports shows, Matt Birk said he was great if things were going right, but was a cancer when things didn't go the way he thought they should.
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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2012, 07:21:13 PM »
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Former Vikings receivers Randy Moss and Cris Carter played together for four years and went to two NFC Championship games as teammates.

That doesn’t mean there wasn’t a competition among them in the late 1990s and early 2000s, something that came to the forefront again Tuesday morning when Carter was critical of Moss’ ability to fight through tough times on the field. Speaking on ESPN radio, Carter reinforced the notion that Moss will quit when a game gets difficult.
 
Carter’s comments were especially poignant in light of Moss saying Monday that he wants to return to playing football at age 35.

"The one thing you have to address with Randy Moss is not a conditioning thing," Carter said. "It's not an age thing. It needs to be addressed. I believe it's the elephant in the room. It's that thing called quit. And Randy, not like any other superstar I've met, he has more quit in him than any of those other players. So I need to address that. I think that's what (New England Patriots coach Bill) Belichick did when he brought him over from Oakland. He told him he wasn't going to allow it, wasn’t going to have it.

"But Randy, when things don't go well, like no other player I've ever been around or associated with, he has a quit mechanism in him that's huge and that needs to be addressed before he signs with any team."

During their days in Minnesota, Carter positioned himself as Moss’ mentor, a stance that often seemed to irk Moss, even after Carter left the NFL.

“its sad how u stroked ur own ego when u were suppose to b my mentor!” Moss tweeted Tuesday morning after Carter’s on-air criticism. “then u wonder why karma bites u in the ass!#goodlukwithhof”
Of course, Carter has failed to get into the Pro Football Hall of Fame since he was eligible in 2007. This year, he didn’t make the final five in the voting, despite finishing his 16-year career with 1,101 catches for 13,899 yards and 130 touchdowns.

Later, Moss seemed to back off his stance on Carter, tweeting, “Cc no matter I still luv u bruh”

Carter said he still thinks Moss can be a productive player, calling him “a freakish athlete” who could run a 4.2-second 40-yard dash as a rookie and believes he could still run a 4.3. But Carter said Moss’ eating habits were never good and that could catch up with him now that he’s in his mid-30s.

Still, when asked if he would choose Moss over another aging receiver, Terrell Owens, who is 38 and also wants to return to the NFL, Carter seemed to lean towards Moss.

“It’s a tough call. ... They’re limited. They’re not featured players,” Carter said. “They’re players that you’re going to ask them to do a couple specific things.”

Moss’ speed and health seemed to give him the upper hand over Owens in Carter’s
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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2012, 07:42:29 PM »
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Is anyone surprised by this? I was waiting for his magical return since he announced his retirement last year.

Yes he's still got it and could be a great addition to any team. But the guy's ego has always prevented him from being legendary.

He'll get offers soon. But will any be good enough? New England will never have him back. Minnesota would never have him back. So where will he end up?
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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2012, 07:22:30 AM »
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If he wants to play he'll end up somewhere but I'm assuming he wants to play for a contending team. I've heard the bears as well as Tice is there and they had a good relationship. Good or bad attitude the guy can play some ball. I think CC is spot on.
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2012, 06:46:31 PM »
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Well he'd fit in on the Bears with all of their other issues. What was it 2 or 3 of their players got nailed for cocaine issues in December? One was dealing cocaine and faces felony charges.

Moss will get offers for next season I just don't see him landing on a high caliber team like he insisted on for this past season.
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2012, 08:39:33 PM »
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Randy Moss says he’s coming out of retirement.
 
“Your boy be back for the upcoming season,” Moss proclaimed earlier this week on an internet video stream.
 





If it were only that simple.
 
Yes, he’s one of the most prolific wide receivers in NFL history. Yes, his agent told profootballtalk.com on Tuesday that three teams have already inquired.
 
But none of this means that Moss is guaranteed an NFL return.
 
This isn’t Brett Favre circa 2008, when quarterback-starved teams like the New York Jets, Minnesota Vikings and Tampa Bay Buccaneers were making a strong play for his services. Even at age 38, Favre was coming off one of his best NFL seasons in Green Bay. He still had fuel in the tank.
 
Moss? At age 35, he may be running on empty almost as badly as Terrell Owens is.
 
The days of Moss causing defensive coordinators to change their schemes or risk being burnt deep ended well before No. 84 announced his retirement last summer. That’s one of the reasons Moss drew scant interest as an unrestricted free agent.
 
New England head coach Bill Belichick has never provided exact details about why he traded Moss four games into the 2010 season. But it speaks volumes that the Patriots would deal their lone deep threat and not miss a beat en route to a 14-2 record. Just as damning, New England passed on the chance to reacquire Moss off waivers once he was cut following a four-game stint with Minnesota.
 
Moss landed with Tennessee and notched only six receptions for 80 yards and no touchdowns. He didn’t catch a single pass during one three-game stretch after being demoted from the starting lineup. He didn’t create receiving opportunities for others by drawing double-teams like before.
 
Moss apologists can point to Tennessee’s unsettled quarterback situation (Vince Young, Kerry Collins and Rusty Smith were all under center at different points). He also was playing in a third different offense in a short span of time.
 
These are legitimate reasons. But one of the NFL’s all-time great personnel assessors – former Indianapolis Colts president and general manager Bill Polian – points to a far bigger problem.
 

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“It was pretty clear he had lost a fair amount of speed and flexibility,” Polian said Tuesday night during our show on Sirius XM NFL Radio. “He was not the same player he was three or four years earlier during his heyday in New England. Since his repertoire of routes was always limited – he was essentially a deep receiver his entire career – losing a step can really hurt your effectiveness.”
 
And then there’s the matter of how Moss has conducted himself at times during 14 NFL seasons. Even Southwest Airlines would have to charge for the amount of baggage he carries. This will deter many squads from giving him consideration.
 
Moss can be a sweetheart with kids and shows compassion to those he cares about. But he also lacks common decency at times. Just ask the catering staff in Minnesota. Only weeks after his return to the Vikings, Moss reportedly screamed the food inside the team’s locker room was unfit for his dog.
 
Days later, after a loss to New England, Moss started a post-game speech proclaiming “no disrespect to the Minnesota Vikings and their organization” before displaying the opposite. Moss questioned Minnesota’s coaching strategy and knocked the staff for not properly acknowledging the amount of hard work he put into preparing for the game. Moss also rambled about how much he loved and missed the Patriots.
 
Less than 24 hours later, then-Vikings head coach Brad Childress cut Moss because their relationship already had turned so toxic. Childress -- another strong-willed and stubborn individual – later told NFL.com that he regretted waiving Moss without approval from team ownership beforehand. Childress, though, left no doubt about his feelings toward Moss when averring he “walked in the locker room and vomited on it.”
 
There’s more.
 
New York Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis captured Moss perfectly when describing him as a “slouch” early in the 2010 season. Moss -- who famously declared “When I want to play, I’ll play” a decade earlier in Minnesota – takes snaps off. This can have a negative trickle-down effect on other wideouts, especially those who grew up wanting to emulate Moss and regard him with awe, like the star-struck youngsters in Tennessee.
 




Cris Carter, another future Hall of Fame wideout and former Vikings teammate, questioned Moss’ heart Tuesday during an ESPN radio interview.
 
“When things don’t go well, like no other player I’ve ever been around or associated with, he has a quit mechanism in him that’s huge,” Carter said. “That needs to be addressed before he signs with any team.”
 
No kidding.
 
Personally, I’d love for Moss to resurface in the NFL. He’s a great story. Maybe with a year to recharge his batteries physically and mentally Moss can regain the form that made him a great player. Moss didn’t catch 954 passes for 14,858 yards and a whopping 153 touchdowns by accident.
 
But to think he will be signed before teams seek other wide receiver options in free agency and the draft is unrealistic.
 
“I just view it as a guy who was a great player, who obviously had some baggage throughout his career but had a nice run at New England, who sort of reached the end as every player does,” Polian said. “Nobody, no matter how great they are, defeats Father Time. I just felt like Randy was in that category.
 
“For his sake, I hope he makes it back. But to me, he didn’t look like a top-echelon player in Tennessee.”
 
We’ll know soon enough whether the rest of the NFL agrees

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