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Maybe I can try the basement thing. 

I'm hoping one of you gardening zealot's can answer this for me. When would be the best time for me to plant tomato seed's so I can grow my own set's? Keep in mind that I have a much shorter growing season than the rest of you. Up here near Lake of the Woods we probably will be putting our set's in the ground at least a month later than the rest of you. Mother Nature very kindly provided us with incredibly rich, fertile soil to even the playing field. I'm allready fantasizing about how good those vine ripened tomatoe's are going to taste! :sunny:DIRTBALL2

Plant your seeds about 6-8 weeks before you can get them outside,If you read earlier in this thread watering too much makes tall thin week stems. start with dry soil,use a spray bottle to keep the seed moist, get the seed to sprout then water,  just enough to moisten the soil. if the plants wilts, water wait till it starts to wilt again and water etc. the extremes of no water and some strengthens the plant.If you do get a tall spindly plant when you plant it dig a root hole and a trench to bury part of the stem.
 In your area try to get some plants that say 57 day 60 day to fruit.
 The plastic as ULT says They used to have these plastic things that you filled with water and put around the base of the tomato plant.They are called Wall-o-Water I have 22 of them and instead of getting my tomatos out in mid May-June,I plant them Mid April outside.They are costly for what they are BUT work great!.
 I found if you make a plastic shelter for each plant TeePee style and put a milk jug 1 gal inside with the plant it will keep the plant warm and the plastic keeps the warmth in.That would work good for you once the plants get in  the ground AROUND???midjune??


EDIT: the gal milk jug needs water in it to absorb heat day time and use as heat overnight,Not for a early planting.Up there theplant needs overnight heat
 I have extra 57 day seeds if you need some PM your add.

I just figure start them earlier. I'd rather deal with shifting them to larger sized containers in the house and have bigger plants to put outside then plants that are never big enough.

Tall leggy thin plants aren't bad. They are great for planting sideways in the hole. That long leggy weak stems quickly shoots out massive amounts of root resulting in a very strong vibrant plant that bares heavy fruit.

My maters are on the south side of the sardine can,planted right at its base it gets hot there.I tried painting the milk jugs black one year, they absorbed and drew so much heat they wilted the plants.But if you can paint the jugs black or any dark color they will heat up more than just white or clear.

Place it now,do it on line so you can see whats happening to it,and ask questions online.They if your ordering plants will send them out at the right time.With the onions tho you may want to prod them to get em earlier.
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What do you get for onions Glenn? Red,yellow,white?

You got that much area for all those onions and the regular garden?

yep! i got 4 different places i can plant extra seeds. campground home ma's house and where our newly planted aspargus is at bout a mile west of campground at a good friends house!!!

Got my seeds for flowers at Mendards when they were on sale....gonna try something different this spring.  All I know is not getting Dollar Store carrots and cuke seeds this year.  Didn't work last year.
Small carrots and small cukes, and they were supposed to be the slicing type cukes. 

Most of the seeds I buy are flower seeds.  Last year was a first on the carrots, thought the grandkids would enjoy them.  They came of ok for them.  Could have been a bad year though on the cukes...I alternate between seeds and plants, as I only put in two or three plants.  I don't pickle them, just eat them fresh.  Maybe I need to till the garden too.  It's been a while, usually just turn it over with a shovel.

Turnin it with a shovel is just fine.I always did mine that way,Untill I picked up a broken tiller CHEAP

Here's my vegie garden started,with some flowers included
Below it are flowers,awhole tray of onions and a tray of 1/2 broccoli and 1/2 brussel sprouts.In another two weeks I will start more flowers.We used to buy at the greenhouses around here spend 50-60 bucks for the veggie garden then another 60-70 for flowers.We never filled the flower beds or the veggie gardens.Now for around 60 bucks worth of seed we have enough for all our gardens, and we got some older friends who request tomatos, certain types they cant buy in the stores,peppers,ground cherrys,luffa,wave petunias and wave Pansys. I have too much time on my hands YET!!!
 The room with the styro cups is a controled 72 degrees and 70% humidity,The window isnt steamed cuz I was cleaning the humidifier

We are keepin one small flower garden as annuals,all the others are perennials,We add and take out each year.Had to many purple cone flowers,gave 5 to the neighbors and now they came out with a red coneflower its goin in this year were a purples were.Its nice not taking care of them and planting every spring,But yet when a new  color comes out we get em in and remove some.Like I say it keeps me busy some I find it hard to sit around doin nutin!!
 Sandy is really proud of her  tulip garden that turns into a wildflower garden in summer.I will post a pic,Only thing is we gotta get something that blooms between the tulips and the summer flowers,It looks poor after the lips dieoff.

Yah I got lotz bout 250-280 plants but about 30-40 of them are for friends and relitives

 Sandy is really proud of her  tulip garden that turns into a wildflower garden in summer.I will post a pic,Only thing is we gotta get something that blooms between the tulips and the summer flowers,It looks poor after the lips dieoff.

Yah I got lotz bout 250-280 plants but about 30-40 of them are for friends and relitives
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There has to be something in between, that is one reason though I don't do tulips....after the flower is gone, they just lay there.  I know in my daughters yard, there are some white flowers that bloom after the tulips or while the tulips are blooming, but I don't know much about perennials.