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« on: March 26, 2011, 10:49:52 AM »
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26 state parks to close? GOP, DFL differ on budget cuts

Posted by Dennis Anderson

A key Republican Senate leader on Wednesday labeled as a "scare tactic'' a DFL claim  that as many as 26 state parks could close this year if  Republicans' budget-wielding ax slices as deeply as proposed.

The Senate Environment and Natural Resources Committee, chaired by Sen. Bill Ingebrigtsen, R-Alexandria, voted along party lines Tuesday to approve an approximate 17 percent reduction in general fund appropriations for the DNR, and Sen. Tom Saxhaug, DFL-Grand Rapids, fired back, calling the move "extreme.''

"This is the type of impact Minnesotans are going to see with an all-cuts budget,” said Saxhaug.  “We are proud of our outdoor heritage and shutting down that many parks will not sit well with folks.  This is a time to show our constituents what our priorities are.  We are telling Minnesotans that state parks are expendable when it comes to meeting the bottom line.”

But Ingebrigtsen said  a shift by his committee of $3 million that had been designated for planning and initial construction at the new Lake Vermilion State Park will keep current parks operating over the next two years, albeit perhaps with minor cutbacks.

"I think it's a pretty easy sell to the public that we don't need to be planning a new park'' when the parks we have need money to operate, Ingebrigtsen said.

The Lake Vermilion planning money had been part of a funding package recommended by the Legislative-Citizen Commission on Minnesota Resources (LCCMR). That panel's suggestions already had undergone substantial changes initiated by Ingebrigtsen and Rep. Denny McNamara, R-Hastings. Both are LCCMR members, and McNamara chairs Ingebrigtsen's counterpart committee in the House.

Ingebrigtsen's committee also voted to close the state's nurseries and sell off the program's equipment and other assets, which could fetch $1 million. And the panel wiped out the entire $910,000 general fund appropriation to the Minnesota Conservation Corps.

Gov. Mark Dayton's budget also calls for general fund cuts to outdoors and natural resources programs, but the reductions — totaling about $20 million — are about $9 million less than what the Senate committee approved Tuesday. Notably, in the governor's budget, the state nurseries are retained, and increases in fishing and hunting license fees, and boat registration fees are offered.

The boat registration hike would raise about $7.5 million to fight aquatic invasive species over two years, while the license fee increase would add about $20.5 million to the Game and Fish Fund.

The latter increase is needed, the DNR says, to keep the Game and Fish Fund in the black.
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2011, 11:06:30 AM »
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  They'll just have to battle it out either way we lose! One direction we lose big the other we still lose.
 Sell the state nursery?? How much will it cost to replenish privatly what we harvest from OUR forests??
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2011, 11:27:47 AM »
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The other thought could be...How much will we save by bidding out nursery stocks from private nurseries? 

I'm not sure that the State Nursery is harvesting trees from our forests? I thought they had a nursery closer to the Cities?   
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2011, 11:37:22 AM »
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The other thought could be...How much will we save by bidding out nursery stocks from private nurseries? 

I'm not sure that the State Nursery is harvesting trees from our forests? I thought they had a nursery closer to the Cities?   
They dont harvest thats bid out,clearcuts are replanted with seedlings from the state nursery.Some managed cuts are also replanted,In the last few years replanting has gone to diversity,not rows and rows of jackpine,But mixed more natural forests,Birch,white and red pine ,maple and oaks.I cant buy seedlings anywhere near the cost from the DNR (nursery) gotta buy quanity and I wait till I see 250 or less offered in a pack but most are 1000-500 per.
 You can get the prices from the DNR site.Private is 10Xs more. BUT if they were contracted to grow seedlings by the millions who knows what prices could be?
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2011, 05:58:13 PM »
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Here are the fees at state parks...

Camping Fees
Standard campsites (modern bathrooms with showers) $12-$20/night
 
Rustic campsites (primitive toilets, no showers)            $12/night
 
Remote campsites (not accessible by car)                    $12-$20/night
 
Equestrian campsite                                                $18-$20/night
 
Tipi (only at Upper Sioux Agency State Park)                    $30/night
 
Group campsites                                                        $30-$75/night
 
Seasonal and monthly campsites                                    $200-$900
 
Electric hookup                                                       add $5/night/site
 
Water and sewer hookup                                           add $5/night/site
 
Campsite reservation fee
(Fee per campsite reserved. Fee is nonrefundable)
 $8.50
 
Maybe they should look at upping the fees a couple of $$ a nite.  Add a little to the electic water and sewer hook-up.  I haven't done any camping at a private campground, so I don't know if these rates are cheaper or comparable.
Cut backs always hurt, but there must be some better way than closing parks, unless the ones they are closing have little or no usage at all.
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2011, 07:42:11 AM »
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Thanks for that answer, Sparce! 
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2011, 09:34:34 AM »
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I don't like seeing fees go up, but I don't have a problem with what Tom was suggesting. Making the parks more self-sufficient would be nice. This way they wouldn't be relying on our tax dollars so much.
 
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2011, 10:35:43 AM »
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My answer? Racino, add slots and full gambling to Canterbury and Running Aces. That will raise more then enough money to keep the state parks open and running. State run casino's will p*ss off the native americas and cost them some money. Its time to share the wealth. Enough with this seperate but greater cr*p.

The Mystic tribe members blow too much cash. If people are going to gamble they might as well help the state's budget issues. The tribal casino's wont suffer that much. they might have to cut back on some of their wasteful spending. To that I say join the crowd. 

Selling the state nursery was just plan stupid. The costs will go up in the long run.

The license fees seem a bit past due for an increase. I just want to make sure that the increased fees stay with the DNR. It seems like we are constantly hearing about funds that were supposed to go to the DNR went else where.
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2011, 11:14:08 AM »
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   Myself I dont like raising boat registration just for invasives!! I think if you lake hop and use a infested lake then you should pay.Why should I pay? I have a canoe,It doesnt leave the lake I live on,16ft crestliner my dock boat does not leave this lake,14ft lake hopper I would pay for this one,Then there are the boats I redo they dont leave this lake,Till sold anyway.Kayak I would pay here also it goes on other waters.
 I fish Green Lake a few times a year the only infested lake I go on, its with the 14ft boat.When not in use it sits in the lot nextdoor. The DNR posts observers on lakes every year,why not have them look for and collect fees for a special infested waters sticker,Post them, the observers on all infested lakes.
 The DNR did NOTHING for years knowing invasives would spread NOTHING except pay for studies.Now because they did nothing we all have to pay for something that could have and should have been acted on years ago.DONT charge for their lack of insight! charge for those who use infested water! Not me at home!
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